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[quote="HDVideo"]Received CS5.5 Production Premium and MXO2 Mini last night. I'm having some problems with the install but rather than further hijack this thread, I've started a new one [url=http://forum.matrox.com/mxo/viewtopic.php?p=29605#29605]here[/url]. If anyone has a suggestion, I'm listening! Thanks, Ed[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>HDVideo</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:55 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Received CS5.5 Production Premium and MXO2 Mini last night. I'm having some problems with the install but rather than further hijack this thread, I've started a new one <a href="http://forum.matrox.com/mxo/viewtopic.php?p=29605#29605" target="_blank" class="postlink">here</a>. <br /> <br />If anyone has a suggestion, I'm listening! <br /> <br />Thanks, <br />Ed</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Matrox_Presales</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:40 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Thank you Jeff for your help. <br /> <br />regards, <br /> <br />JD <br />Customer Care</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>HDVideo</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:21 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I printed that out so it will be handy during install. <br /> <br />Thanks again! <br />Ed</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>autumn</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:13 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hi Ed, <br /> <br />Install CS5.5, then update Premiere to 5.5.2 right away. <br /> <br />With PC off, connect MXO2 with supplied cable, but BE SURE to orient the ends correctly! The ends are D-shaped, get them the right way and they connect very easily. If any force if needed, they are probably reversed. Also connect MXO2 power. <br /> <br />Next, install Matrox drivers. Current release is 5.5.1, but I think you will be ok just going with the 5.5.2 beta release here - <a href="http://forum.matrox.com/mxo/viewtopic.php?t=7530" target="_blank">http://forum.matrox.com/mxo/viewtopic.php?t=7530</a> <br /> <br />If using the 5.5.1 driver, it is NOT compatible with latest Nvidia drivers (5.5.2 is), then read here - <a href="http://forum.matrox.com/mxo/viewtopic.php?t=6873" target="_blank">http://forum.matrox.com/mxo/viewtopic.php?t=6873</a> <br /> <br />The 5.5.2 beta is compatible with latest Nvidia driver. <br /> <br />After installing MXO2 drivers, shut down PC and disconnect/reconnect power to MXO2 hardware, helps solidify the firmware updates I guess. <br /> <br />In Premiere - right click in Program Monitor window and set Playback Resolution to FULL, only need to do this once. In Preferences, set Player to Matrox (Adobe is default). <br /> <br />If you edit any NTSC sequences, note that Matrox uses 720x486, while DV and DVD video are 720x480, so the extra 6 lines need to be cropped when exporting to DVD or Matrox avi clips. Crop settings vary, please see this blog post for details, as well as the manual - <a href="http://www.sharbor.com/tutorials/2164.html" target="_blank">http://www.sharbor.com/tutorials/2164.html</a> <br /> <br />OK, that should have you in pretty good shape to get started without the common headaches! <br /> <br />Good luck <br /> <br />Jeff Pulera <br />Safe Harbor Computers <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>HDVideo wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Thanks Jeff, <br /> <br />I put the PC together last night and everything went real smooth. Just waiting for FedEx to show up with my order from you guys. If there is something I should know or do before installing CS5.5, let me know. My first project on the new system starts a week from today so I can't really afford to spend a lot of time getting it all up and running. <br /> <br />Regards, <br />Ed</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>HDVideo</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:38 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Thanks Jeff, <br /> <br />I put the PC together last night and everything went real smooth. Just waiting for FedEx to show up with my order from you guys. If there is something I should know or do before installing CS5.5, let me know. My first project on the new system starts a week from today so I can't really afford to spend a lot of time getting it all up and running. <br /> <br />Regards, <br />Ed</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>autumn</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:49 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hi Ed, <br /> <br />When you're ready to install Adobe and Matrox, please feel free to contact me at Safe Harbor and I'll share some tips for success to ensure a smooth process for you. <br /> <br />Thank you <br /> <br />Jeff Pulera <br />Safe Harbor Computers <br /><a href="http://www.sharbor.com" target="_blank">www.sharbor.com</a> <br /> <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>HDVideo wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I'm in the same boat with jlummel, having been a long time Matrox customer (RT2000 thru RT.X2) and finally building a new system for CS5.5 w/MX02-Mini. I have found this thread very informative as I've struggled with some of the same issues and had many of the same questions regarding the MX02 line. <br /> <br />I have ordered, but not yet received the CS3->CS5.5 Production Premium upgrade with MX02-Mini from Safe Harbor. Since Adobe is doing away with the older version upgrade options, I went with CS5.5 rather than waiting for CS6 and paying full price. <br /> <br />My system, which has also been ordered but all parts not yet received is as follows: <br /> <br />ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3 LGA1155 Socket MB <br />Core i7-2600K <br />16 GB Gskills Ram <br />EVGA GTX 580 <br />Win 7 64Bit Professional <br />Antec 750W PSU <br />Storage from my current system (about 3TB total) <br /> <br />Having worked with CS3 Production Premium on a WinXP system for quite a while, I'm really looking forward to this new build w/CS5.5. <br /> <br />Sorry there is no question in this post, just a Thank You to jlummel for asking some of the same questions I had and to Autumn for the informative responses. <br /> <br />Regards, <br />Ed</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>HDVideo</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:50 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'm in the same boat with jlummel, having been a long time Matrox customer (RT2000 thru RT.X2) and finally building a new system for CS5.5 w/MX02-Mini. I have found this thread very informative as I've struggled with some of the same issues and had many of the same questions regarding the MX02 line. <br /> <br />I have ordered, but not yet received the CS3->CS5.5 Production Premium upgrade with MX02-Mini from Safe Harbor. Since Adobe is doing away with the older version upgrade options, I went with CS5.5 rather than waiting for CS6 and paying full price. <br /> <br />My system, which has also been ordered but all parts not yet received is as follows: <br /> <br />ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3 LGA1155 Socket MB <br />Core i7-2600K <br />16 GB Gskills Ram <br />EVGA GTX 580 <br />Win 7 64Bit Professional <br />Antec 750W PSU <br />Storage from my current system (about 3TB total) <br /> <br />Having worked with CS3 Production Premium on a WinXP system for quite a while, I'm really looking forward to this new build w/CS5.5. <br /> <br />Sorry there is no question in this post, just a Thank You to jlummel for asking some of the same questions I had and to Autumn for the informative responses. <br /> <br />Regards, <br />Ed</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:35 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: One more concern...</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I just found out that the MX02 treats NTSC DV video as 720x486 rather than the native 720x480. The RT.X2 also did this in CS4 and it was rather problematic. <br /> <br />Any effects or transitions on the timeline affected the entire 486 and would create problem with edges and borders showing the dark edges where the 486 lines extend beyond the 480 of the native video. There were also preview problems on the external monitor and issues with adding still images and titles. Stretching the video to fit the timeline was a surefire way to impose re-rendering and unacceptable softening of the video. And having to walk on eggshells while editing DV video was just plain annoying and should not be necessary! <br /> <br />Since much (most) of my workload still involves SD video and will for a very long time, I was very unhappy to see this aberrative behavior in how NTSC DV timelines were treat being carried forward to the MX02.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jlummel</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:52 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Jeff, <br /> <br />Actually I bought my last 2 Matrox boards (RTX.100 and RT.X2 LE) from Safe Harbor and both came with tutorials and excellent customer service. I especially found the RT.X2 tutorial well presented and full of VERY useful information, indispensable. <br /> <br />I'm a happy Safe Harbor customer and look forward to continuing to do business with them in the future. <br /> <br />But I went with VideoGuys this time: 1. because as a VIP Club member I get free shippping and 60 day returns (instead of their normal 30 days); <br />and 2. they had a MXO2/NeoScene bundle coupled with a 5% off sale. I bought my first Matrox board from them, the RT.2000 years ago and that's when I joined their VIP club (mostly for the free shippping), which I've also taken advantage of over the years because they do some wonderful bundles and bonus pack-ins (like Magic Bullet Quick Looks in several of their bundles, etc), and they also have excellent customer service. <br /> <br />I'm also a happy VideoGuys customer and look forward to continuing to do business with them in the future too. <br /> <br />After deciding to get a MXO2 and deciding on which MXO2 to get, I had to decide where to get it. Given that both shops have excellent customer service, fast shippping and excellent pricing, it was a difficult choice. But in the end I felt I would get more out of the NeoScene; and the price difference was only $10 after the free shippping and discounts, compared to the Safe Harbor offering (which also had free shippping, BTW, as well as the free MXO2 course). <br /> <br />I wouldn't hesitate to recommend both Safe Harbor and VideoGuys to anyone looking to get a great deal and excellent service and each one has different offerings that distinguishes them from competing shops in the same line of business. <br /> <br />You can't go wrong with either, and there's a lot to be said for that!! <br /> <br />James</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>autumn</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:20 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Just a brief follow-up.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hi James, <br /> <br />I guess I had not mentioned in our correspondence that Safe Harbor is a Matrox dealer and offers a FREE exclusive MXO2 tutorial with purchase - <br /> <br />Mastering Matrox MXO2 with Adobe Premiere Pro CS5: <a href="http://www.sharbor.com/products/SAHN3010016.html" target="_blank">http://www.sharbor.com/products/SAHN3010016.html</a> <br /> <br />Maybe we can do business in the future. MXO3 perhaps? <br /> <br />Thank you <br /> <br />Jeff Pulera <br />Safe Harbor Computers <br /><a href="http://www.sharbor.com" target="_blank">www.sharbor.com</a> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>jlummel wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Just a brief follow-up. <br /> <br />I ordered the MXO2 Mini with Max and should have it in-hand early next week. Despite issues such as the 720x486 SD timelines, it does bring quite a bit to the table and would seem to fill-in the weak spots of my editing system. It helps having been a Matrox user for almost a decade, so there's very little that I'll need to learn to get up to speed. And I miss having a working Matrox MPEG2 I-frame codec (the software VFW codec is bugged with CS5.5 on my system, it works but there are problems after you exit the CS5.5 programs that can lead to system instability, especially with Encore, Matrox was able to reproduce it so it should be fixed eventually). <br /> <br />James <br /> <br />PS- I did have the opportunity to get a MXO2 LE w/ Max for about $1000 at eCost.com and had they done the Loyalty Upgrade discount I would have. But in the end I didn't want to pay for features like SDI or genlock that I would likely never use in my current or near future workflow, though it would be nice to have if I ever did need them. That $250 differential is better spent on a decent IPS panel monitor, rather than sitting around as unused features. But if they would have done the upgrade discount, it would have been great! It was a tough choice though...</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jlummel</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:52 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Just a brief follow-up.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Just a brief follow-up. <br /> <br />I ordered the MXO2 Mini with Max and should have it in-hand early next week. Despite issues such as the 720x486 SD timelines, it does bring quite a bit to the table and would seem to fill-in the weak spots of my editing system. It helps having been a Matrox user for almost a decade, so there's very little that I'll need to learn to get up to speed. And I miss having a working Matrox MPEG2 I-frame codec (the software VFW codec is bugged with CS5.5 on my system, it works but there are problems after you exit the CS5.5 programs that can lead to system instability, especially with Encore, Matrox was able to reproduce it so it should be fixed eventually). <br /> <br />James <br /> <br />PS- I did have the opportunity to get a MXO2 LE w/ Max for about $1000 at eCost.com and had they done the Loyalty Upgrade discount I would have. But in the end I didn't want to pay for features like SDI or genlock that I would likely never use in my current or near future workflow, though it would be nice to have if I ever did need them. That $250 differential is better spent on a decent IPS panel monitor, rather than sitting around as unused features. But if they would have done the upgrade discount, it would have been great! It was a tough choice though...</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jlummel</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:15 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Jeff, <br /> <br />It was a robust system a couple of years ago! But more importantly, it's rock stable. It's socket 775 so I have to replace everything to move up. Part of why I'm looking into a MXO2 w/ Max, my system performs well and between CUDA, Matrox RT and Max, all my gaps are pretty much covered for all but the most rigorous uses. <br /> <br />For DVD encoding I use the CinemaCraft MPEG2 encoder. Even on a Core 2 Duo at 2.53 GHz I'm used to doing 2 hour 2-pass VBR encoding to DVD in less than a half an hour. On the quad core it's a bit faster. <br /> <br />I use CinemaCraft because it allows me ultra low MPEG2 bitrates and I can routinely put 4 to 4.5 hours of video on a DVD-5 disc. I deal mainly with instructional video in SD, so there are a lot of long, static scenes with only a part of the the frame in motion and CinemaCraft eats it up. In testing the same video encoded at different bitrates down to the ultra low ones, only other editors were able to tell the difference. But if there is more action in the video, the higher my low end bitrate has to get! <br /> <br />So I export an AC3 audio only Adobe MPEG DVD file and run the main video thru CinemaCraft and have become spoiled by the RT or better. So I'm here, asking questions so I can make the best choice possible. <br /> <br />That's why the 720x486 NTSC DV presets bother me. I just had to deal with one today where I needed to update an older project done on the RT.X2 that used nested timelines. Were it not for the 720x486 Matrox timelines that I had to import into the new CS5.5 project this would have been a simple fix, but rather it took me all day recreating the nested sequences because I had to recreate the underlying timelines in 720x480. You can replace a video clip and the timeline will update with the new video clip leaving all your edits intact. But you can't replace sequences, you can only copy and past the old sequence to a new one and then recreate all the timelines that used that sequence. And all to get rid of corruption introduce by the Matrox preset. They need to give us the option at least! <br /> <br />James <br /> <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>autumn wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Hi James, <br /> <br />Looks like a pretty robust system, except for the processor being a couple of generations back. If you think this system performs, you ought to try a Core i7-2600! <br /> <br />NTSC exports to MPEG-2 for DVD are many times faster than realtime - imagine exporting a 2-hour project in about 12 minutes, or H.264 from an HD source in realtime. <br /> <br />Jeff <br /> <br /> <br /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>autumn</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:32 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hi James, <br /> <br />Looks like a pretty robust system, except for the processor being a couple of generations back. If you think this system performs, you ought to try a Core i7-2600! <br /> <br />NTSC exports to MPEG-2 for DVD are many times faster than realtime - imagine exporting a 2-hour project in about 12 minutes, or H.264 from an HD source in realtime. <br /> <br />Jeff <br /> <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>jlummel wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>autumn wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Hi James, <br /> <br />Please tell me about your computer hardware. The Nvidia card you installed is NOT approved by Adobe, and therefore will NOT be used for the GPU-acceleration in Mercury Playback Engine, unless you have done "the hack". <br /> <br />Here is the Adobe-approved cards list: <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html" target="_blank">http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html</a> <br /> <br />Here is the info for hacking your card: <br /><a href="http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm" target="_blank">http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm</a> <br /> <br />... <br /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Hi Jeff! Thanks again for following up. <br /> <br />Yes, I did "the hack" and have GPU acceleration selected, it's very fast in Premiere! <br /> <br />My system is as follows: <br /> <br />Asus P5E-Deluxe X48 motherboard <br />Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q8400 2.66GHz <br />Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7 CPU cooler <br />Patriot Viper 8GB (4x2GB) DDR2 4-4-4-12 800mHz RAM <br />Evga nVidia GTX 550 Ti 1GB video <br />Asus Xonar DX Audio <br />Sil-3132 PCIe-1x eSATA2 card (2 external ports) <br />Adaptec 2940UW PCI SCSI card <br />OCZ 600W modular power supply <br />Seagate Momentous XT 500GB SSD-Hybrid boot drive <br />Internal RAID-0 1.5TB (2x WD Cavier Black 750GB, Win7 software RAID) <br />External eSATA RAID-5 2TB (3x Spinpoint F3 1TB drives in ProRAID cabinet) <br />LG DVD R/W drive (EIDE) <br />Pioneer BDR-206 BD-R drive (eSATA) <br />Quantum DLT7000 tape drive (external SCSI-wide) <br />Sony DSR-20 DVCAM deck (Firewire) <br />NZXT Beta medium tower case (3 fans in a push-pull config, avg system temp is ~43c-47c while running OCCT power supply test) <br />MS Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 (USB) <br />Logitec optical mouse (USB) <br />Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit <br />Adobe Production Premium CS5.5 <br />Slots remaining: 1 PCIe, 1 PCI <br /> <br />This system is very stable (no overclocking) and handles most tasks pretty well, especially with CUDA active. <br /> <br />I need to mention that I had created a lower-frame timeline but the MPEG2 video in the VOB files ripped from DVD were upper-frame (as I found out AFTER editing the webclips), so when rendering there was both an interlace conversion from upper to lower and then to progressive that was happening, as well as a pixel aspect conversion from 0.9 (720x480) to 1.0 (640x480). So without CUDA acceleration these timelines would have required rendering just to view on the monitor! <br /> <br />When exporting directly from Premiere it was realtime (including both max render quality and frame blending selected), but when using Media Encoder with the same settings the time needed per clip was magnitudes higher. One could surmise from this that CUDA was the difference between the two renders, and that's the only thing that would make sense. CUDA acceleration wasn't used in the Media Export renders for export. I haven't gotten the chance to follow up on this yet, but I thought CUDA rendering was used in Media Encoder! I'm only going by what happened to me as I tried get a rush project out the door, and will follow up when I can to see what actually occured. <br /> <br />Bummer to hear that about #6 and calibration, SD monitor calibration from the MXO2 would have been the bee's knees... <br /> <br />Thanks, <br />James</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jlummel</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:56 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>autumn wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Hi James, <br /> <br />Please tell me about your computer hardware. The Nvidia card you installed is NOT approved by Adobe, and therefore will NOT be used for the GPU-acceleration in Mercury Playback Engine, unless you have done "the hack". <br /> <br />Here is the Adobe-approved cards list: <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html" target="_blank">http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html</a> <br /> <br />Here is the info for hacking your card: <br /><a href="http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm" target="_blank">http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm</a> <br /> <br />... <br /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Hi Jeff! Thanks again for following up. <br /> <br />Yes, I did "the hack" and have GPU acceleration selected, it's very fast in Premiere! <br /> <br />My system is as follows: <br /> <br />Asus P5E-Deluxe X48 motherboard <br />Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q8400 2.66GHz <br />Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7 CPU cooler <br />Patriot Viper 8GB (4x2GB) DDR2 4-4-4-12 800mHz RAM <br />Evga nVidia GTX 550 Ti 1GB video <br />Asus Xonar DX Audio <br />Sil-3132 PCIe-1x eSATA2 card (2 external ports) <br />Adaptec 2940UW PCI SCSI card <br />OCZ 600W modular power supply <br />Seagate Momentous XT 500GB SSD-Hybrid boot drive <br />Internal RAID-0 1.5TB (2x WD Cavier Black 750GB, Win7 software RAID) <br />External eSATA RAID-5 2TB (3x Spinpoint F3 1TB drives in ProRAID cabinet) <br />LG DVD R/W drive (EIDE) <br />Pioneer BDR-206 BD-R drive (eSATA) <br />Quantum DLT7000 tape drive (external SCSI-wide) <br />Sony DSR-20 DVCAM deck (Firewire) <br />NZXT Beta medium tower case (3 fans in a push-pull config, avg system temp is ~43c-47c while running OCCT power supply test) <br />MS Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 (USB) <br />Logitec optical mouse (USB) <br />Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit <br />Adobe Production Premium CS5.5 <br />Slots remaining: 1 PCIe, 1 PCI <br /> <br />This system is very stable (no overclocking) and handles most tasks pretty well, especially with CUDA active. <br /> <br />I need to mention that I had created a lower-frame timeline but the MPEG2 video in the VOB files ripped from DVD were upper-frame (as I found out AFTER editing the webclips), so when rendering there was both an interlace conversion from upper to lower and then to progressive that was happening, as well as a pixel aspect conversion from 0.9 (720x480) to 1.0 (640x480). So without CUDA acceleration these timelines would have required rendering just to view on the monitor! <br /> <br />When exporting directly from Premiere it was realtime (including both max render quality and frame blending selected), but when using Media Encoder with the same settings the time needed per clip was magnitudes higher. One could surmise from this that CUDA was the difference between the two renders, and that's the only thing that would make sense. CUDA acceleration wasn't used in the Media Export renders for export. I haven't gotten the chance to follow up on this yet, but I thought CUDA rendering was used in Media Encoder! I'm only going by what happened to me as I tried get a rush project out the door, and will follow up when I can to see what actually occured. <br /> <br />Bummer to hear that about #6 and calibration, SD monitor calibration from the MXO2 would have been the bee's knees... <br /> <br />Thanks, <br />James</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>autumn</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/mxo/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:44 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hi James, <br /> <br />Please tell me about your computer hardware. The Nvidia card you installed is NOT approved by Adobe, and therefore will NOT be used for the GPU-acceleration in Mercury Playback Engine, unless you have done "the hack". <br /> <br />Here is the Adobe-approved cards list: <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html" target="_blank">http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html</a> <br /> <br />Here is the info for hacking your card: <br /><a href="http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm" target="_blank">http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm</a> <br /> <br />My test system here is a Core i7-2600 3.4Ghz with 8GB RAM and the Nvidia Quadro 4000 card, and H.264 exports are typically realtime, except for Blu-ray which takes a bit longer. <br /> <br />If your hardware is a couple of years old, and/or the GPU acceleration is not enabled, that would explain the slower renders. <br /> <br />If unsure about the MPE setting, in Premiere go to Project > Project Setting > General and see what it lists for Renderer - should be Mercury Engine GPU and NOT "Software". <br /> <br />Question #5: So again, I have NOT done side by side tests of exporting from Matrox sequences versus Adobe sequences, I guess because I had no cause to, because my exports are VERY fast. However, I will check this out when I have access to the demo machine, can't right now. <br /> <br />Question #6: There are NO calibration tools for analog outputs, the procedure is for HDMI only. The calibration procedure is probably not what most people are used to - when you run it, there are detailed instructions onscreen for each step, and the appropriate graphic is output to your HDMI display at each step of the process. <br /> <br />Thanks <br /> <br />Jeff Pulera <br />Safe Harbor Computers <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>jlummel wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Jeff, thanks for the rundown and taking the time to address my questions. <br /> <br />In question #5, it was accelerated rendering that I was referring too more or less. In CS4, Adobe had implemented Media Encoder and everything had to be exported thru the Media Encoder. And while you could export a Matrox timeline via Media Encoder the rendering wasn't accelerated, so Matrox added a button to the export dialog to render directly from Premiere (which is now duplicated in CS5.5 so you don't have to use Media Encoder for exports). <br /> <br />I had also thought that Adobe timelines were to have rendering accelerated when exported via Media Encoder in CS5.5, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I recently had to create web video clips from DVDs, so ripped the VOB files from the DVDs and used them directly on the timeline (now supported in CS5.5), the yellow bar showed CUDA acceleration. <br /> <br />I exported to H.264 via Media Encoder and it took more than 20 minutes to encode a 3 minute clip with frame-blending and rescaling to 640x480. Exported directly from Premiere was realtime or better, demonstrating that CS5.5 doesn't CUDA accelerate rendering in Media Encoder (though I was under the impression it should). <br /> <br />So to simplify question #5- Will exports of Matrox timelines in CS5.5 have their rendering accelerated if exported thru Media Encoder? <br /> <br />On #6 about calibration, do the analog outputs have a blue only mode so that it simplifies calibration? I understand that the more intense calibration procedure is reserved for the HDMI port, but it would seem to make sense that the blue only would be available on all the outputs. <br /> <br />It was when reading your tutorial on exporting for DVD last night that I realized that Matrox had inflicted the 720x486 DV timeline insanity on the MX02!! I've been using CS5.5 for just shy of a month now and had completely purged the 720x486 daemons from my workflow and my mind, like the bad memory is was. Yes, I feel strongly about it and find the prospect of dealing with that again deplorable... If they did it just for speed, why?? It's SD video for goodness sakes!! It's fast on Pentium systems, much less dual and quad core Core2 and iCore processors!! Who needs virtually infinite layers of video, especially if the video is corrupted in the process (and that is what the 720x486 timeline does, it corrupts native 720x480 video by introducing unwanted and unnecessary artifacts into the effects processing, why would I willingly use a product that corrupts my video unless I had no other choice or it brings something <span style="text-decoration: underline">very</span> special to the table?). <br /> <br />And why do I keep getting the error message "The requested URL /mxo/antispam_check.php was not found on this server." when I try to preview this message?? Something to do with the correct spelling of the word "Proomotional", as in "proomotional web video clips".<span style="font-weight: bold"></span></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/mxo/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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